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Disciple3 09-18-2008 07:43 PM

you really believe that? lol

skoob 09-19-2008 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ITH
skoob dude you gotta know how to seperate politics from everything else. you can argue about something without hating the person you are arguing with. this is in no way hate mongering this is a site showing where they have not told the truth.. i dont understand why u would not want to see this and know who you are voting for..

if you could show me a obama lies site i would love to see it i would thank you for educating me more on the subject and try to retort with something constructive. but hey man whatever floats your boat i guess



i could post 50 of your dumb "_____ 50 lies" websites.

When you start reading websites on the internet that are made by people that absolutely love a candidate, and are about the other candidate's lies, i think you need to start separating the real stuff from the bullshit.

a better method for you to do would be to read each candidate's stance on your top issues, then think about how congress would respond to such a stance and imagine what actually might get done.

example:

Ron Paul want's to essentially remove all US troops from foreign soil and bring them home. (this was as of the last time i cared about ron paul, at the beginning of the republican primaries). The president is the CiC, so theoretically he could do this.

You have to figure his Generals will tell him he's an idiot, and instead of bringing ALL troops back, maybe he brings back 10% of troops, from the places we don't need them. do we need all the troops that we have in Italy/Germany/Spain/Portugal?

Probably not, so say 10% come back, and that much money is saved.

Instead of getting my ideas from a stupid hate mongering website, i instead took a candidate's policy and logically thought of how it would be implemented, and decided that yes, i agree with that and yes i think that's a good idea.

I'm just saying what works for me though..maybe reading hate websites works for you.

Disciple3 09-19-2008 08:21 PM

its up to 61, lol! this site is awesome

ibme 09-22-2008 10:31 AM

The one thing I watch for is how often a canidate puts out an ad that "smears" the other canidate and tells me little to nothing about themselves.

So many past elections were mostly nothing but that. Few ads telling me anything about their positions on things. To me it's nothing more than a big waste of their campaign money and if their willing to waste that money then I'm fairly certain they will be less concerned when it comes to our money.

They want my attention then tell me about their plans and position on subjects that concern me and spend less time telling me half truths about the other guy.

So far I have seen far more smear campaigns from the McCain camp than the Obama camp this year. I really expect that they will throw one out that there that plays a word game about how Obama - Biden compares to Osama Bin Laden....ie Obama-Osama and Bin laden-Biden......:wow:

Chappy 09-22-2008 11:53 AM

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/

If your going to post something about McCain and claim people should know the facts about who there voting for, then claim your not being bias then post something about obama also, this is the first site i found on google our of many, so lemme know how accurate it is....

KhaOZ 09-22-2008 02:10 PM


skoob 09-22-2008 08:01 PM

Barry Bonds
Barry Obama?

Both do steroids??????

ZOMG

Disciple3 09-22-2008 11:09 PM

The election is not about the candidates its about you and what they're going to do for you

ITH 09-23-2008 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chappy
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/

If your going to post something about McCain and claim people should know the facts about who there voting for, then claim your not being bias then post something about obama also, this is the first site i found on google our of many, so lemme know how accurate it is....



thats neat ive looked through alot of these and yes he may have lied about things everyone has. i dont have time to go through them all but here are the first three.. that dont jive just by research i have done.. number 3 makes me completely think this website is bogus


1,) 1995 - someone bleaching their skin to be a white man (who cares?)
2.) playing with semantics with something that happened in 2003
3.) is odd.. since Obamas parents met in hawaii and soon after they were married Obama Sr. left for harvard around 1963 also the person who this refers to is Barak Obamas Step-Mother Kezia who was paid 13 cows.. and doesnt dispute how much money he had as a child... here is a quote


Quote:

"About a week later, William and I took Barack to the station. We were going to say: 'Bye bye, see you next time.' Except there was no bye bye.

"When the train arrived William and Barack said, "You are going to Nairobi." I went with him.'

Her father, a local driver, was furious.

KEZIA said: "He did not like Obama. My father and brothers came to Nairobi to bring me back. They said I had to go back to school.

"When I wouldn't, they said they would never speak to me again.

"Barack was also worried about what his father would think because I was so young, but he gave us his approval. He sent my mother and father 14 cows for my dowry.

heres the part they left out


Quote:

"Barack's father was only a COOK so it was a big sacrifice. Very soon after, we were married."

That was January 1957. Kezia and Barack Snr set up home in Jericho, a section of Nairobi created for government employees, and began a family.

First son Roy was born in March 1958. Kezia insisted: "Barack was a good husband."

It was not long before Barack's potential was noticed by his employees and he was offered a scholarship to the US.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...---mother.html



this website is dribble absolute no fact checking bulls**t takes things from the past and uses other none credible sites to do their work, which is terribly faulty. i will do more research if your still not convinced but i have other things to do.

compare the 2 sites which ones have more recent pertinent statements and issues.. thanks for the effort but find one that isnt full of lies.

ITH 09-23-2008 07:28 AM

ah and heres another thing
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/about/




[quote] he purpose of this site is to provide you with unfiltered news about Obama. This site is an alternative view to the mainstream media news coverage about Obama. Everyone is allowed to submit content. The news will be posted after it is authenticated by the site admin [\QUOTE]

one of their front page videos is "From a Black Voter: Obama Does Not Have the Character and Values to be President" ... seriously?? im sure there is some old people who say McCan shouldnt be president either.. i now see why things are very erronious its posted by random people and then "verified" by the admin.. and im sure he just looks to see if it halfway looks truthful



http://www.mccainpedia.org/index.php/McCainPedia:About

Quote:

McCainpedia.org is a wiki run by the DNC's Research, Communications, and Internet teams. The goal is to centralize research material, allowing the general public to use it as they see fit. Unlike some wikis, McCainpedia is read-only and can't be edited by the public. This allows us to fully validate all of the information that appears, ensuring accuracy and reliability.

yes its also bias (obviously) but never claimed it wasnt look at the url title.. but atleast its run and researched by a team put together by the DNC


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