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Jonbond009 04-11-2007 07:37 PM

The PAIN IS SO STRONG
 
Dear Fellow A.A. clan members,
Im posting this because Im deeply hurt because of false or blown out of proportion accusations held against me by "Stoner" . These accusations were handled in a manor that i did not take likely, and this was not the second time this has occurred!. I believe these actions taking was unethical and displayed an abuse in admin power. These actions taking by "Stoner" was childish and immature and there were numerous ways that the situation could of be handled. I asked that i be shown respect because I am a human being like anyone else. I have been in this clan for quite some time and I think I should deserve at least that much.

Sincerely asking for respect,
Jonbond009
"RESPECT R.E.S.P.E.C.T"

Stoner 04-11-2007 08:07 PM

I suppose that i should explain what happened, seeing as only like 1-2 were there.


In our server earlier today, on urban assault, flashbang was (as usual) recruiting people. Jonbond got shot by the guy flash was recruiting and yelled at him to turn the hacks off, so i muted him so as not to hinder flashbang's recruiting skills. When flash was done, i un-muted jon and he proceeded to complain about being muted. I then muted him again, as at the time i was already dealing with 5-6 people in vent being loud, and i didn't want to deal with it. muting you the SECOND time was wrong, and i will apologize for that.

KhaOZ 04-11-2007 08:11 PM

It should have been taken to private, and should still be, even now, in private. No reason to vent this out in the open. It's your division, so it's your choice, but I'd suggest talking this out between you two, and removing this post. Both of you seem very mature, and I think you could handle this out of the public eye.

Just my 2 cents :)

catch22 04-11-2007 08:12 PM

I dont mean to come off as an asshole, but i think you just need to not get over dramatic over something stupid like this, and just soldier on.Yes some wrongs were done by both parties for whatever reasons. You both need to just shake hands and get over it

I hope that something as stupid as this doesnt make people hold grudges against one another and that it can be worked out like civilized human beings.

That is my $0.02, like it or hate it it needed to be said.

Stoner 04-11-2007 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhaoZ
It should have been taken to private, and should still be, even now, in private. No reason to vent this out in the open. It's your division, so it's your choice, but I'd suggest talking this out between you two, and removing this post. Both of you seem very mature, and I think you could handle this out of the public eye.

Just my 2 cents :)



That is what i thought as well, but seeing as how it was brought out here, i see no reason to hide it.

Lethal 04-11-2007 08:18 PM

Stoner muted you because you were calling a potential recruit a hacker... now I know you were doing it in good fun and I'm pretty sure you didn't believe he was a hacker. However, calling someone a hacker is against the server rules, despite the intentions. Stoner only muted you because Flash (as usual) was gonna recruit him, and this may have hampered his efforts. And from what I know, the second muting only came about as you were gonna argue your first muting. And I know this doesn't justify the 2nd muting, but Stoner was pissed off at how loud we were talking and took it out on you in the form of a 2nd muting... I think he's apologized for that.

blood 04-11-2007 08:23 PM

lethal, i saw your post somewhere else...

i think it was here: http://www.fallenangelsx.com/forums/...83&postcount=2

Jonbond009 04-11-2007 08:26 PM

Stoner the the word Joke or the words just kidding mean anything to you. If i were to consist on calling him a hacker than would of been a different story.But i did not do so. Also I did not yell at him. I joke in a mearly calm matter. As said before you blew the hold thing out of proportion. You need to find a better way to control your anger. Count to ten or something, but just because ther is noise that upsets you in vent that doesnt mean you must abuse your power and take it out on me who did nothing wrong. If someone did something to you, you would like to know why they did it. Stoner you should be more leaniant before abusing your admin powers.

Jonbond009
"Control, control can go a long way"
"Those who continue abuse there power should be striped of it"

Lethal 04-11-2007 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blood
lethal, i saw your post somewhere else...

i think it was here: http://www.fallenangelsx.com/forums/...83&postcount=2


When I started my post there was 0 replies. When I had finished it had like 4 or 5. IF I had seen them, then obviously I wouldn't have posted so similar to Stoner.

blood 04-11-2007 08:34 PM

oh snap, son. Type faster! haha.

-towelie 04-11-2007 08:35 PM

just deal with it.
not trying to be mean, but so much e-drama.
drop it, if you didn't want it to start, don't say anything.
btw did you get a mic?

Jonbond009 04-11-2007 08:35 PM

if i am not correct we were in the same channel, and all stoner had to say was please do not say/ accuse any1 of hacking. thats all he had to do. Warnings go a long way.

Jonbond009

-towelie 04-11-2007 08:36 PM

So do server rules.

Stoner 04-11-2007 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonbond009
Stoner the the word Joke or the words just kidding mean anything to you. If i were to consist on calling him a hacker than would of been a different story.But i did not do so. Also I did not yell at him. I joke in a mearly calm matter. As said before you blew the hold thing out of proportion. You need to find a better way to control your anger. Count to ten or something, but just because ther is noise that upsets you in vent that doesnt mean you must abuse your power and take it out on me who did nothing wrong. If someone did something to you, you would like to know why they did it. Stoner you should be more leaniant before abusing your admin powers.

Jonbond009



Joking is hard to detect over the internet. If it was indeed a joke, i wasn't able to tell, and because you have no mic, it makes it even harder to communicate.

And muting you was not an outburst of anger. It was a justified enforcing of the rules. On our AA server, one of the few rules we have is: "do not accuse others of hacking unless you have proof" Now, you say that you were joking, but that is not how it came off. Again, this wasn't being blown out of proportion until now.


Quote:

if i am not correct we were in the same channel, and all stoner had to say was please do not say/ accuse any1 of hacking. thats all he had to do. Warnings go a long way.

no, we were not in the same channel. I left that channel because (as i said in my earlier post) i said it was too loud for me to be able to concentrate and play the game in there. Besides, the warning is in the server rules

Jonbond009 04-11-2007 08:40 PM

i do not pay enough attention to the rules as i should but "hearing is better them reading"

-towelie 04-11-2007 08:41 PM

but reading helps your mind. :D

Jonbond009 04-11-2007 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoner
Joking is hard to detect over the internet. If it was indeed a joke, i wasn't able to tell, and because you have no mic, it makes it even harder to communicate.

And muting you was not an outburst of anger. It was a justified enforcing of the rules. On our AA server, one of the few rules we have is: "do not accuse others of hacking unless you have proof" Now, you say that you were joking, but that is not how it came off. Again, this wasn't being blown out of proportion until now.




no, we were not in the same channel. I left that channel because (as i said in my earlier post) i said it was too loud for me to be able to concentrate and play the game in there. Besides, the warning is in the server rules



Stoner you muted me a striped me of my only means communication with my teammates and that mad my playing experience more difficult. another mere warning was the only thing required. and it should not of been that difficult to tell my tone and i did not break the rulez i did not accuse him. i said, " turn off your hacks" not"xyz(w.e his name is) is hacking" or some thing of that nature.

JOHNUNIT 04-11-2007 08:50 PM

yo fagget
 
stfu pussy ass noob

catch22 04-11-2007 08:54 PM

Seriously just drop it and get on with life, this e-drama is lame as hell. You seriously need to grow up.

Jonbond009 04-11-2007 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOHNUNIT
stfu pussy ass noob

i will appreciate john if you dont have notting good to say refraim from from saying it.(and this goes to every1 else

Jonbond009 04-11-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catch22
Seriously just drop it and get on with life, this e-drama is lame as hell. You seriously need to grow up.

also catch i am growing up and settling conflicts in a mature manor is a path in life you should take because it strenghtens the growing process.

catch22 04-11-2007 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonbond009
also catch i am growing up and settling conflicts in a mature manor is a path in life you should take because it strenghtens the growing process.


I honestly think you are not handling this in a mature manor at all. You should of taken this to PM's with stoner instead of making a big deal out of it so everyone can see it. You need to understand, joking or not. It was a bad situation to be calling someone a hacker when flash was trying to recruit the guy. Plus it is one of our server rules to not accuse people of hacking. It would have been different if it was on vent because it is easier to tell sarcasm in a persons voice. Stoner told you he was sorry for muting you the second time, you just need to get over the fact that what you did was not cool and take responsibility for your actions. Dragging this on and on like this only hurts you, nobody else.

Jonbond009 04-11-2007 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catch22
I honestly think you are not handling this in a mature manor at all. You should of taken this to PM's with stoner instead of making a big deal out of it so everyone can see it. You need to understand, joking or not. It was a bad situation to be calling someone a hacker when flash was trying to recruit the guy. Plus it is one of our server rules to not accuse people of hacking. It would have been different if it was on vent because it is easier to tell sarcasm in a persons voice. Stoner told you he was sorry for muting you the second time, you just need to get over the fact that what you did was not cool and take responsibility for your actions. Dragging this on and on like this only hurts you, nobody else.


If i didnt know any better Catch i would say you were lashing out at me. And as much as dont like to say i am sorry for creating any tention or my lack of reading rulzes. Making this a big deal this was not my intentions. I know that "life is to short to hold grudges". My way of settling problems is to talk about it and i try to say it in the calmess way i know how. I not yelling and/or cursing i think thats mature wheather you think so or not . I appreciate your "2 cents" ,You lashing out at me does not make the situation better. The sooner you see that the better. I dont wanna give you the idea that im lashing back at you because i am not.

catch22 04-11-2007 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonbond009
If i didnt know any better Catch i would say you were lashing out at me. And as much as dont like to say i am sorry for creating any tention or my lack of reading rulzes. Making this a big deal this was not my intentions. I know that "life is to short to hold grudges". My way of settling problems is to talk about it and i try to say it in the calmess way i know how. I not yelling and/or cursing i think thats mature wheather you think so or not . I appreciate your "2 cents" ,You lashing out at me does not make the situation better. The sooner you see that the better. I dont wanna give you the idea that im lashing back at you because i am not.


To be completely honest i was not "lashing" out at you at all. I was trying to make you understand the situation since you apparently didn't get it the first time. And now you made this topic get way out of line. This thread has officially turned into a finger pointing fest and i am asking for a mod to please lock, and or delete this thread all together since it is going nowhere fast. If you and stoner wish to sort the issue out. Talk to him either on Xfire, or PM him through here. I am in no way angry with you at all, besides maybe dealing with this in the wrong manner. But we all make mistakes. I have had my fill of E-Drama for this month.

IceBlade 04-11-2007 11:06 PM

Shut... up...

Jon, learn to chill in a server. Not everyone knows you're joking.

Stoner, don't rape little animals.


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