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Sc0rPi0n 01-04-2008 12:38 AM

Obama and Huck win Iowa primary
 
Good job coming through for us, Iowans. Here is Obama's victory speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqoFwZUp5vc&feature=user

lhurgoyf 01-04-2008 01:14 AM

You are telling people in Iowa good job for voting for Huckleberry? I believe it prooves that 34% of the republicans in Iowa are functionally brain dead.

Sc0rPi0n 01-04-2008 01:16 AM

Voting for Obama I do. I think them voting for Huckleberry just proves how little people care about Republicans.

Hey, I have 911 posts, its a sign that Obama is going to win the presidential nomination.

KhaOZ 01-05-2008 02:38 PM

Obama `08!

skoob 01-05-2008 03:43 PM

no1 cares about democrats

Kudos 01-05-2008 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skoob
no1 cares about democrats

:sad: its true.

Sc0rPi0n 01-05-2008 09:55 PM

True, screw democrats. Lets vote another Bush into office.

KhaOZ 01-07-2008 05:56 PM

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Kudos 01-07-2008 06:09 PM


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i think obama will win it because theres alot of people who are like Yeah first black president wooh! mainly college kids.

KhaOZ 01-07-2008 06:54 PM

I don't think that's it at all. I think he represents hope for a country that's on the spin down the drain. I think people want major change to get us back on track, and Obama fits the bill.

MegamanEXE 01-07-2008 07:28 PM

Ron Paul

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CoreyvsWorld 01-07-2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KhaOZ
I don't think that's it at all. I think he represents hope for a country that's on the spin down the drain. I think people want major change to get us back on track, and Obama fits the bill.


you really think? to be honest I haven't been keeping up on this lately, But I think that people are too stubborn, I mean George Bush did win two elections.

Sc0rPi0n 01-08-2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kudos
k...



i think obama will win it because theres alot of people who are like Yeah first black president wooh! mainly college kids.


He is Muslim. His full name is Barrack Hussein Obama. He is black. Here is a reality check, there are vastly more people who would vote against him because of the afore mentioned than for him. Perhaps you should actually watch the speeches and debates before coming up with absurd theories.

Sc0rPi0n 01-08-2008 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoreyvsWorld
you really think? to be honest I haven't been keeping up on this lately, But I think that people are too stubborn, I mean George Bush did win two elections.


There are two types of Republicans. Those concerned with traditional family values, such as abortion, gay marriage, Christianity, et cetera. And then you have the Republicans concerned with economics. The vast majority of votes that Republicans receive are from cultural conservative Republicans concerned with family values. They vote these people into office expecting social change, what they are receiving are Republican economics. It is all in response to a backlash to cultural liberalism which is still being played out since the Vietnam war. Republicans gained these votes and haven't looked back, and they continue to keep these votes by clogging up the government with issues that will never be resolved.

And in case you are wondering what Republican economics are, refer to something called Reganomics. What Regan did was implement HUGE tax cuts for the extremely wealthy in what he called a trickle down effect, that is, the wealthy would pass the savings along to the poor. What happened was the gap between the rich and poor increased, sort of like what is happening today. Regan fucked up the country in a lot of other ways but I won't get into that.


Bush won because of cultural conservatives The laissez-faire economic policies of the Republican party are wreaking havoc on our communities and livelihoods for the benefit of the extremely wealthy. Meanwhile, the party fails to deliver on the moral issues (such as abortion and gay rights) which brings the support of cultural conservatives in the first place.

to quote Thomas Frank:
Strip today's Kansans of their job security, and they head out to become registered Republicans. Push them off their land, and next thing you know they're protesting in front of abortion clinics. Squander their life savings on manicures for the CEO, and there's a good chance they'll join the John Birch Society. But ask them about the remedies their ancestors proposed (unions, antitrust, public ownership), and you might as well be referring to the days when knighthood was in flower.

If you want to know why Obama is winning, it is because he is winning back the cultural conservatives. He is reminding them what it meant to be an American, and in my honest opinion creating a new group of moderate liberals from these many groups of people. He isn't just side-stepping the questions, but answering them head on. The idea isn't just change, or hope, but unity and prosperity. Things like middle class tax cuts, and fighting against the commercial entities of gas and lobbyists. Maybe he is full of shit, we will never know; but he tells you what you want to hear.

BTW, Obama is by no means perfect. He is a great speaker but he needs to find a side and stick to it, he screws up when he tries to stay on the middle ground.

Sc0rPi0n 01-08-2008 12:59 AM

Here is another reason why I will never vote for Hillary.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...nal/index.html

skoob 01-08-2008 06:26 AM

we don't need tax cuts right now, we need tax increases.

and until a president flat out lies to everybody, or americans realize what they need is to give more money to the government then our debt is going to stay pretty constant....

that and/or start taxing the states which would raise state taxes, which won't happen but would be a better idea for whoever is in control at the time.

unfortunately these are for the most part career suicide..

p.s. i'm republican for every reason but lower taxes, abortion, and a couple other things. namely weed should be legalized and taxed the fuck out of..money in the bank.

Sc0rPi0n 01-08-2008 10:26 AM


KhaOZ 01-08-2008 12:21 PM

Obama's not Muslim, he's very Christian, heh. That's where he met Oprah. They go to the same Church in Chicago.

His Mother is from Kansas(white), and father from kenya(black). His Father was Muslim, though he hasn't seen his father since he was like 6 years old. He spent 2 years in a public school that people claimed was a muslim madrassa, but it wasn't. It was just a regular public school in an area that was like 80% muslims, so naturally there were a lot of muslims there.

I've done a lot of homework on the man. TONS. I don't just jump into shit, heh. I've liked him for about a year now, before he ever decided to run. Since my wife mentioned that Oprah had a friend she thought SHOULD run. At that point I looked him up.

Sc0rPi0n 01-08-2008 01:07 PM

He was Muslim, he converted. I still consider him Muslim because he probably knew he would never get the nomination(for any public office) trying to break the religious barrier and the color barrier at the same time. Only one non-Protestant president has ever held office.

KhaOZ 01-08-2008 03:42 PM

Obama was never Muslim. Not a day in his life. His mother was Catholic, and he went to a Catholic school. His father was Muslim, but had converted to atheist before Barack was ever born. His father disappeared back to Kenya and Obama never really knew him. Barack was born in Hawaii, and his mother met another Muslim man there, who she married. When Barack was registered in school as a small boy, his parents put down his religious preference was Muslim, because that's what his step father was, and Barack was to young to decide for himself. He later went to Catholic school, and has always been Christian. He was never Muslim.

skoob 01-08-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sc0rPi0n
Skoob, voting a Republican into office to erase the national debt is like fucking for virginity. Where ever did you get the notion that they erase the trade deficit?



that's not why i vote republican..although i would fuck for virginity.

Sc0rPi0n 01-08-2008 10:30 PM

You seem to know more about it than me Khaoz, but from the media I have always been under the impression he was a convert.

MegamanEXE 01-08-2008 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sc0rPi0n
You seem to know more about it than me Khaoz, but from the media I have always been under the impression he was a convert.


found your problem, scorp.

Sc0rPi0n 01-08-2008 10:58 PM

Well Mega, unless you are actually there how do you know? Through one form of media or another.

KhaOZ 01-09-2008 01:57 AM

Obama lost tonight, but only by 2% in a state that Hillary claimed was a sure win for her. She called it her "firewall" state. So for him to come so close in a state she claimed, it gives me hope for how other states may go.

Anyway, check out this shirt:

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I'm ordering one for sure :)

ZeroSolid 01-14-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kudos
k...



i think obama will win it because theres alot of people who are like Yeah first black president wooh! mainly college kids.


and that right there proves why you should not talk about politics

Sc0rPi0n 02-12-2008 10:38 PM

Obama pulls ahead of Clinton tonight on total delegates; there is turmoil within her campaign.

Sc0rPi0n 03-04-2008 02:45 AM

lol, Obama Girl! I've heard about her but its the first time I've looked her up on youtube. Couldn't stop laughing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIiMa...eature=related

Sc0rPi0n 03-04-2008 03:03 AM

This shit is entertaining

http://www.barelypolitical.com/bp-mu...sode/noyoucant

Sc0rPi0n 03-18-2008 03:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU

N0de 03-18-2008 05:35 PM

Im not sure if I trust obama but something has to happen. I don't see raising taxes as an option as people are already making too little money. But something needs to be done to fix the dollar... either that or make the euro a world currency. Our economy is borderline fucked so someone needs to step to the plate.

just for comparison maryland just elected a democrat over a republican and we went from a surplus to deficit within 6mo and he raised taxes on cigarettes then signed a bill saying you cant smoke in bars. Theres supposed to be another $1.00/pk increase on cigarettes coming, its not confirmed just a rumor I heard.

anonymous 04-08-2008 11:39 PM

McCain`08!

KhaOZ 04-09-2008 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymous
McCain`08!

lol, don't pick on the old man with your sarcasm! While granted, he'd make a ridiculously horrible president, I still think he's an ok guy. He almost had a shot too if he were up against Hillary.

Chappy 04-15-2008 05:52 AM

khaoz i have to do it cause i havent seen you in forever....but your a llama

JuStLaXiN 04-17-2008 07:59 PM

vote for ron paul.. isolationism ftw


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