so..

**Sc0rPi0n** · 10-20-2006, 06:47 PM

Did that match ever get overturned? update ><

10-20-2006, 07:00 PM

cal is one fucked up league (the admins)
thats my only comment

CoBra · 10-20-2006, 08:58 PM

The admins say that he switched positions while defusing to where he was defusing as he should, however had he moved we would have seen it, he was on the ground from the train defusing through the train. But, w/e. So no, the match never got overturned.

**Sc0rPi0n** · 10-23-2006, 08:58 PM

What about the speed + aim hacks?

**FreemaN** · 10-23-2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sc0rPi0n

What about the speed + aim hacks?

Even if the hacks were super blatant, the cal admin wouldnt do anything since the dispute was a general dispute. I had a long talk with the Senior Admin in charge, which was actually pretty funny, I'll see if I can grab the log. The main problem here, was that the cal admins never bothered to change my general dispute to a cheating dispute which caused most of this mess....

**FreemaN** · 10-23-2006, 09:12 PM

Session Start: Sun Oct 15 15:18:20 2006
Session Ident: CAL-css|Nicholson
[03:19pm] [fa|freeman]Do you approve of allowing cheating in the CSS division?
[03:19pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson]no
[03:21pm] [fa|freeman] Well can you please explain why one of your admins would completely overlook the use of cheats in a match just to find out if they made an illegal defuse or not?
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] ok i'll explain this once
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] We're general admins we're not allowed to deal with a/c at all. If we do see cheating we'll pass it on to the a/c team
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] we do not comment
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] nor will we inform the team that gave us the demo
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] if we're investigating
[03:23pm] [fa|freeman] That clears things up
[03:23pm] [fa|freeman] However arent just initiating illegal defuses illegal?
[03:23pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] It's judged on a case by case basis
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] given if your referring to the one that blood was talking about
[03:24pm] [fa|freeman] yeah
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] all players on your team were dead
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] the player started teh defuse
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] but stopped
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] and redid a legal one
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] there is nothing to punish there as it did not have an impact on the round
[03:24pm] [fa|freeman] I see
[03:25pm] [fa|freeman] I was just disputing by the rules but alright
[03:25pm] [fa|freeman] theres no way the cal anti cheat team will take a look at this now right?
[03:25pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] no
[03:28pm] [fa|freeman] So if cal does not allow cheating, why do you say the cal anti cheat team will not look at a demo with a log of every cheating infraction?
[03:28pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] you sound like a lawyer.. now take this into consideration how many teams are in CAL CS:S?
[03:29pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] do you think we'd ever be able to handle everything properly if we didn't make teams follow the rules with regards to reporting disputes?
[03:31pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] do we want to catch every cheater there is? damn right we do. but if we allowed everyone to dispute anytime they feel like it we'd never get a season done. we'd end up doing nothing but watchin everyones demos.
[03:32pm] [fa|freeman] I did try to change the general dispute to a cheating dispute
[03:32pm] [fa|freeman] a little after I filed the general dispute
[03:32pm] [fa|freeman] however it was using live support and trying to get an admin
[03:33pm] [fa|freeman] so I just left the message since no admin was on
[03:33pm] [fa|freeman] No admin ever did get back to me
Session Close: Sun Oct 15 19:26:58 2006

Kudos · 10-24-2006, 10:41 AM

he said TEH!!

sWeepstar · 10-24-2006, 02:53 PM

damn ol' poop dicks.

**CoreyvsWorld** · 10-25-2006, 01:41 PM

Lol, welcome to the world of CAL Admins.

They favor teams, such as Skull, Every team that beat skull in the CAL-M Season, Skull filed a dispute about them, and got every match overturned, and most of the time got the other team kicked out of cal-m.

AND how about that time that our team scrimmed a team we were supposed to have a match against in a couple days, and all the CAL admins said was "it wasnt very nice of you."

**Sc0rPi0n** · 10-26-2006, 08:36 PM

ya, you fuckers did that when I wasn' there cause you knew what I would have said.

But ya, CAL admins...morons