T3h Proof (Eternal hacking, do not move this)

[CoBra]

Just to clarify, anybody can have hacks in CSS. All you have to do is type in console sv_cheats 1. Once you do that you can turn anything on, so he probably viewed the demo, put cheats on in the console, and watched the demo, frapsing it, that is a way to catch cheaters if you did not notice, you can also use wireframe instead of wallhacks. Just because it's in a video doesn't mean another person just downloaded hacks and made a video, get real, pay attention and know about the game before posting useless information.

So stop making stupid accusations saying that we all hack, just turn cheats on in console and voila, instant hacks. Anyways the point in that video is pretty obvious, the showed it with walls, in which it does look like he is walling, pretty bad. But his appeal is in and we can do nothing until we figure out what's going on, I know Eternal, I've met him, I've gotten him shrooms, he's a cool guy. I don't know if he hacked at a video game but that doesn't condem him as a person, so he wanted to do whatever the fuck he wanted and got caught (that being the scenario) or he is proven clean, and you fools look retarded.

This should not have been posted publicly nor do I approve my Division of doing so, that was poor use of your brain on that part blood. You not only disgraced Eternal, but our clan as a whole, I'm not saying we harbor hackers or anything but if he did, you just made all of us look bad, use your head man that's all im sayin.

To everyone else, stop acting so childish about this, it's a video game you are taking it one step too far, if indeed he was caught hacking, live with it, remove him from the clan, and move on. If he wasn't, I sincerely hope you are removed for false accusations and for being plain out dumb, think before you act.

If I could please talk to an Admin of the CoA, that'd be excellent. - MSN Preferrably, however I will jump on IRC and check forums for pm's as much as possible Im really busy this time of year with work, about to get laid off, trying to get as many hours in as possible.

Thanks, and remember, HAVE a GREAT day :)

CoBra

[Sc0rPi0n]

Blood actually did contact me a couple of weeks ago about this, just needed some demo's to see for myself. We do not tolerate hacking, and we do not tolerate false accusations of hacking. Both are bannable offenses. It wasn't a very mature thing to post this in the general forums, but its a minor offense compared to the former.

The CoA have decided to wait until after the appeal. If the suspension is upheld, than Eternal is gone, but if its over turned, we may take an atlernate route. There is no use in condeming an innocent person. Although Freeman has already taken action, we'll play wait and see a little bit longer.

Some of the CoA are not convinced w/ this video. I've played competitive CS long enough though to tell the difference between hacks and legitimate skill. We do not tolerate hacking, at all. What I see is blatant hacking.

I'm not worried about what happens because I know what I've seen. I do wonder, however, if you guys who have posted watched just the video or the .dem's that are zipped in the files section. Your comments make me think you watched a 2 minute video that shows models and posted "OMG THAT DOESN'T PROVE SHIT." or "I could do that in photoshop." Check the .dem's inside CS:S first or don't post.

Disgrace the clan? The only disgrace being done is posters lack of maturity. If you don't play regularly or only watched the video on putfile, why are you posting all this drama? I realise posting in the general forum was a decision that wasn't *necessary* but there is also a thing called moderation. If someone doesn't understand or hasn't played, as I said, don't bother posting, it only exaserbates things.

To those of you who did post without watching the .dem's...
I'm sorry that you took a look at a "mockery video" not even made, touched, or hosted by me and start posting saying it's fake, etc, etc. I'd like to remind everybody that I've been talking in private with admins about this for weeks now. This isn't some new accusation or problem that has occurred. If someone has been caught by a league hacking, I should hope it's posted with proof in a thread for discussion. I agree the video could have been left out as it's authenticy can't be verified on it's own. However, the mockery video was posted alongside demos which you could, in fact, line up and see match. These demos are his official ones and you are most welcome to take a look at his and the ones posted, they will also line up. I find it sad you would post about a thread causing problems without reviewing readily-given materials (the .dem files) before posting. Who, exactly, is causing these problems?

We have a friendly clan we scrimmed against often and they refuse to play with this person, on it's own that statement is pretty weak. Consider teammates believe he hacks, also. Consider the fact a league banned him for it at the same time the previous took place. Also take into account that he immedately started to act up and do things that FA admins have said are inappropriate. I had no issue with him personally until that very thing and he knew this. Now, he's pointing fingers at something I said was a problem of mine. I laugh at you, sir.

Would people from this point on please look at the .dem's or don't post.
})FA| blood

[})FA|Killian|WL]

It's not about dems , it's about making it a public affair when it hasn't been resolved yet .... We all as FA know the outcome that comes with a guilty verdict , and we have all seen people be accused and cleared and are still here ( I won't name names ) , And alot of people never will know because it wasn't brought up publicly , and being cleared meant it never had to be . I'm not disputting any demo I don't play don't care ! Point being , I'm not CoA , I don't play , if you didn't want a public opinion , then why is it in a general discussion public forum Oo , where anything within reason goes ? You put it here , it remains an open topic , exspect public non CSS , non CoA imput and responces from vid. watchers and non .
If you didn't want to be criticized for making it public, then next time keep it within private division forums and the CoA .

This will be my last post here , and remember

"Have a wonderful day"

[Etern.\L]

Flame, Flame, Flame, man this is begining to sound more and more childish by the min.

Sir is right boi....nice peddlin by the way, you should try a marithon.

See, I have not been making this into any kind of an issue. Then you go and post some bullshit "Mockery Video" ha (Real Mature), so of course I had to speak my peace. F.Y.I. I dont care what you think, send me Freemans and or Cobras demos, or even KillingSprees demos, I will show you the same highlight show. Hey maybe we could even get Pudding to throw his hacks on them make them look realy special, taha.

You dont see me wining to the CoA, and you wont, GAMES GAMES GAMES thats all they are, get it. Like I said I could care less about CAL, and I will still play with my friends here, wether I am in the clan or not. I am really glad that you have now made this into way more then what it was to begin with, wasting more then just your own time with this.....Bravo.

By the way, have you all forgot about Puddings Hacks, and by the way those videos can not be achieved though console hacks, sorry but you fucked up, oh but Cobra said it best "poor use of your brain Blood". Aaaaaahhhh, but no one is questioning that though, right......irony, hypocritical, call it what you will. I also find it funny that all of a sudden you turn your friend out to dry "not even made, touched, or hosted by me" but wait...

Signed,
})FA| blood, })FA| killingspree, })FA| puddinlover, -Rouge- Buddha ,-Rouge- Raider, Misc others.

Not really worth fusing over though, I find it hard to believe that anything will be done about Pudding or your indiscretions, I mean yes hacks are ok if they are to make a "Mockery Video", taha. Way to go.....says alot about your own character, and the values that this clan upholds.

I am lucky enough that I do have friends here that were very upset about this whole situation and desided to do something about it. As always, guess what, I am going to continue to Game, get on have a good time, pwnt whoever I can, and enjoy it, like I have always said if you ant havin fun, why are you playin.

In closing I would like to say, I sincerly hope that I can get CAL to overturn there desition, if they do "lucy you got some splainin to do". If they dont then wow, we already know that I will no longer be able to wear my FA tags, end of story, I think we have established that. I dont know what else you think you will accomplish, you have already made a fool of yourself in my opinion, and you sure ant going to effect me having fun playin my GAMES, you should look up the defintion better yet here,

Game - amusement or pastime usually for one's own amusement or for that of spectators: children's games; video games.

Maybe you should spend this much time and effort in your REAL life Blood, maybe then you would not live in your moms basment, when do you think you will become a real man, and take care of yourself. I know that's hitting below the belt, but you threw the first shot, now take your medicine.

Now this whole thing is begining to take up to much of my fun time so this will be my last post about this crap, flame all you want, I will enjoy the laughter.

And remember "Have a terific day"

[})FA.cL0cK]

vert alert

[Napir]

Its a sad day for the Fa clan with al this freeking bullshit going on.

End Napir

ps Good luck Etern.\L I feel sry for you man all this shit going on

[Sc0rPi0n]

Next person who talks shit about a fellow clan member is getting a little vacation regardless of the CAL AC outcome. CoA have said what they are going to do, so anything past this point you all can send thru tells.