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Old 07-13-2007, 12:03 AM   #13  
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Originally Posted by Sc0rPi0n
REALLY? I wonder why you would think that. Read up on all three of these.

There is a story called Gyges ring. Its an ancient story mentioned by Plato, he says that man is naturally evil, if you give him power without consequence he will use it to do evil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Gyges

Thomas Hobbes, one of the founders of today's democratic governments, said "No arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death: and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short." He basically argues that man is naturally evil, and that there is a need for government to control man, because without it there would be chaos and man would kill one another.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Hobbes#Leviathan

Dave Carnegie, one of the leading theorists on human psychology and the most influential humans relations scholars of the early 20th century said that no man does evil with the idea that they are wrong. Human beings act in circumstances that they influence themselves and believe to be in the right. I highly suggest you read the book "How to win friends and influence people", it can change your life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_...fluence_people

Yes, I agree. Without laws, and consequence, man is uncontrollable, and evil hearted.
Let me rephrase myself. The major portion of people don't go and murder everyone else. You said it yourself; people where you are still say hi, wave, etc, etc.

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Originally Posted by Kudos
i think you made a couple good points along with khaos, but i think its funny how you say someones logic doesnt make sense then start to compare the worlds to a cs server

Thanks.
And I was mostly talking about this statement:
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Originally Posted by KhaoZ
With the way the world is today, I can see people buying guns and keeping them in a safe place for home protection. Outside of that, you're just being a low self esteemed, paranoid, prick, and you're probably going to end up doing something stupid with the gun.

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