so..

[Sc0rPi0n]

What about the speed + aim hacks?

[FreemaN]

Originally Posted by Sc0rPi0n

What about the speed + aim hacks?

Even if the hacks were super blatant, the cal admin wouldnt do anything since the dispute was a general dispute. I had a long talk with the Senior Admin in charge, which was actually pretty funny, I'll see if I can grab the log. The main problem here, was that the cal admins never bothered to change my general dispute to a cheating dispute which caused most of this mess....

[FreemaN]

Session Start: Sun Oct 15 15:18:20 2006
Session Ident: CAL-css|Nicholson
[03:19pm] [fa|freeman]Do you approve of allowing cheating in the CSS division?
[03:19pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson]no
[03:21pm] [fa|freeman] Well can you please explain why one of your admins would completely overlook the use of cheats in a match just to find out if they made an illegal defuse or not?
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] ok i'll explain this once
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] We're general admins we're not allowed to deal with a/c at all. If we do see cheating we'll pass it on to the a/c team
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] we do not comment
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] nor will we inform the team that gave us the demo
[03:22pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] if we're investigating
[03:23pm] [fa|freeman] That clears things up
[03:23pm] [fa|freeman] However arent just initiating illegal defuses illegal?
[03:23pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] It's judged on a case by case basis
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] given if your referring to the one that blood was talking about
[03:24pm] [fa|freeman] yeah
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] all players on your team were dead
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] the player started teh defuse
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] but stopped
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] and redid a legal one
[03:24pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] there is nothing to punish there as it did not have an impact on the round
[03:24pm] [fa|freeman] I see
[03:25pm] [fa|freeman] I was just disputing by the rules but alright
[03:25pm] [fa|freeman] theres no way the cal anti cheat team will take a look at this now right?
[03:25pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] no
[03:28pm] [fa|freeman] So if cal does not allow cheating, why do you say the cal anti cheat team will not look at a demo with a log of every cheating infraction?
[03:28pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] you sound like a lawyer.. now take this into consideration how many teams are in CAL CS:S?
[03:29pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] do you think we'd ever be able to handle everything properly if we didn't make teams follow the rules with regards to reporting disputes?
[03:31pm] [CAL-css|Nicholson] do we want to catch every cheater there is? damn right we do. but if we allowed everyone to dispute anytime they feel like it we'd never get a season done. we'd end up doing nothing but watchin everyones demos.
[03:32pm] [fa|freeman] I did try to change the general dispute to a cheating dispute
[03:32pm] [fa|freeman] a little after I filed the general dispute
[03:32pm] [fa|freeman] however it was using live support and trying to get an admin
[03:33pm] [fa|freeman] so I just left the message since no admin was on
[03:33pm] [fa|freeman] No admin ever did get back to me
Session Close: Sun Oct 15 19:26:58 2006